Talking about how he thought Bell’s appearance on his podcast in February 2018 would be a slam-dunk easy sit-down, considering how many interviews they’ve sat through together, Shepard quipped on Conan that “it was a disaster right out of the gate”—apparently in part because Bell had been looking forward to going to the crafts store that day and was impatient with him. (She loves doing crafts with the kids.)
Listening to it later, “I thought I was a little controlling, but it was vomitous…